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    Juce se malo izlupetao sto se PES 2011 tice, a i sam je rekao da nije citao nikakve najave, niti recenzije vec samo da je video neke klipove, a sto je najbitnije nije ni igrao igru, ali i pored toga izgleda da ne planira da radi kitserver za PES 2011 ali da ce njegov posao verovatno nastaviti drugi...

    Originally Posted by juce
    i admit that i have not read the press realeses or reviews from game magazines. I did watch a couple of videos that were posted on the Internet. It is, of course, too early to say anything definitive, but from the experience of the past few years, the pattern was always the same: new game, very high expectations, many changes in the game (GOOD), but not in the aspects that improve gameplay. For me PES2008 - PES2010 gameplay-wise is pretty much the same, and it does not have a feel of a football match. It's a delicate balance, and i'm not suggesting it is easy to do, but i think we all know what Konami is capable of. Opinions differ on whether PES5 or PES6 was the best, but overall consensus is that the gameplay in those two games was far superior to the current next-gen series.

    Konami do not want to release a mediocre game, i think you're misunderstanding what i said. PES2010 is a very good game, and there is every chance that PES2011 will be even better. The problem for me with these games however, is that there is too much focus on the visual presentation and not enough attention to try to make the gameplay more believable, more football-like. Gameplay is a combination of graphics, animation, physics, tactics, and many other small things. It is VERY DIFFICULT to find the right balance and have the game feel like it is a football match. Konami had done it with PS2-generation of games, but not with the new-gen (IMHO). And for me, that is the deciding factor. You can have all leagues in the world, balls, kits, tournaments, stadiums, extremely deep management in Master League - but ultimately it all doesn't matter, if when you play the match you don't believe it is football.

    Unfortunately, it seems that Konami is currently concentrating on perfecting the visual aspect of the game. It is of course an important part. However, the very fact that people still play PES5 and PES6 is a proof that the hard-core fans of the series want the gameplay, not graphics. You would think that if Konami wanted to target that audience, they would put most of their efforts into improving animations of players, physics and collisions, and also going back to implementing little things right, that combined make a huge difference (like when ball is out of play, the clock shouldn't stop). That is not the case though, so that is why i'm saying that Konami is going after a wider audience - people who don't necessarily want to spend hundreds of hours of playing the game, but for whom graphics and sound is very important, because it is the first thing they see. Again, i'm not saying Konami is right or wrong to **** a particular audience. It is THEIR game and THEIR business to run. But personally, i'm one of those who don't like the direction in which the game is going. That's all.

    As for Kitserver future, I honestly do not see myself doing a Kitserver for 2011 - for variety of reasons. I'm sorry if this is disappointing news. Actually, I really wish i had stopped earlier - perhaps after PES2008, but what's done is done. That is not to say that the Kitserver project is necessarily doomed. If there is enough interest, i think there is a chance that a version for PES2011 will be released - i've been in contact with a couple of very bright folks, who have the skills to **** up the project and continue with it.

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    Bilo bi puno bolje bez kit servera! Svedno koji god sam patch skinuo pokvario mi je gameplay, ne znam sto ali igraci se cudno ponasaju kad instaliram neki patch, lijepo brate orginal i kasnije konami izbacuje updateove i milina....!

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    Iskreno bilo bi mi glupo bez pečeva.
    Možda osmisle neki drugi način da ih ubace ali ovaj do sad je najbolji.

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    Uvek je tu Game Graphic Studio kao alternativa.

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    Iliti game pas-serbia patch studio

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    jbt nervira me kad vidim da neko ovoliko se*e, razumem da zeli gameplay iz PES 6 al je preterao, napredak pesa od pes-a 6 maltene nije ni spomenuo i to malo sto je spomenuo rekao je da ne vredi nista zato sto gameplay nije kao u PES-u 6, a da nije bilo napredka verujem da bi se i ovaj forum odavno ugasio jer ne bi bilo zainteresovanih ljudi za PES...a on ako ocekuje da mu preslikaju fudbal sa tv-a na komp pa da se on igra, malo se za*ebo...i ovo sto kaze "(like when ball is out of play, the clock shouldn't stop)." pa jel treba cela tekma da mi prodje dok izvedem aut ako namestim da poluvreme traje 5 min (sto je najcesce slucaj kad se igra u drustvu). PES je pre svega kompjuterska igra,a on ako toliko zeli da se oseca kao da igra fudbal nek izadje napolje pa nek igra.

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    U pravu je čovek.
    Dosta ljudi i dalje igraju Šesticu iako je stara već 5 godina, da je ovaj baš PES toliko dobar ne bi trebao niko da igra PES6

    Ali vratimo se temi

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    Meni bi bilo glupo bez pečeva mada što miško kaže uvek je tu ggs
    Ali opet je kitserver mnogo lakši način...
    Nego da kažem nešto što sam davno razmišljao,šta ako npr konami promeni način pravljenja pesa?
    Da na primer ne budu cv_01.img,cs_01.img,e_text.afs itd kao dosad što je bilo,šta ako smisle novi način pravljenja,tako bi svima otežali posao pravljenja peča a i nekih tool-ova za igru tako teško da bismo imali pravi peč bar godinu dana
    Pu pu daleko bilo bolje neka nastave ovako kako je...
    PS Snaćićemo se mi i bez juice-a!

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    ma stari dobri AFS i GGS,bice verovatno neko prostije resenje za petchovanje,ima mozgovi kolko oces na ovaj internet

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    ma nije on jedini internet pun genijalaca mozda smisle nesto naprednije

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    Čovek je počeo rad na kitseveru još na samom startu, kad je izašao PES3 (prvi PES za PC koliko ja znam). Znači 3, 4, 5, 6, 2008, 2009 i sad 2010, svaka mu čast za to, pa i da više ne pravi zaslučuje lepe reči od svih nas. A ako ne bude njega ima drugih, evo Kinezi se polako pojavljuju na sceni, već drugu godinu kako prave svoj ekvivalent kitservera, a tu je i brat Grk Stelios, ima ljudi...

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    Steta sto vise nece Juce praviti kit server, ali ima i dalje tu majstora robbie, stelios, Wecn, w!ld@ ... ali i postoje i alati preko kojih se istyo mogu ubacivati pecevi kao npr. GGS, DKZ studio, AFS explorer...

    As for Kitserver future, I honestly do not see myself doing a Kitserver for 2011 - for variety of reasons. I'm sorry if this is disappointing news. Actually, I really wish i had stopped earlier - perhaps after PES2008, but what's done is done. That is not to say that the Kitserver project is necessarily doomed. If there is enough interest, i think there is a chance that a version for PES2011 will be released - i've been in contact with a couple of very bright folks, who have the skills to **** up the project and continue with it.
    Ovo uliva nadu...

 

 

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